Meh. Call me old fashioned, but iTunes just doesn't 'do it' for me. I like to be able to hold the CD (or LP), look at the album artwork, read the liner notes, etc. I want something that I can hold in my hand and see with my own eyes, so I guess that Mask Records boot will have to suffice for eternity...

American.Nightmare, January 12, 2007; 5:35 PM

Very good that it is finally available on a legitimate release, very regrettable that there is no hardcopy release though. But it is far better than if it had never gotten a legitimate release at all.

I for my part never found this score that remarkable though.

Urs

handstand, January 12, 2007; 7:15 PM

An unfortunate truth and a glance into the future of music availability.

serifiot, January 12, 2007; 8:05 PM

I hate iTunes.

I'm happy with my old vinyl LP.

angeldibujo, January 12, 2007; 8:19 PM

No thanks,something tangible
please.
bottlecapcolector.

patricia.griffiths610, January 12, 2007; 9:51 PM

It's turning into a sad fact that some scores will never be released on disc. CAM has been releasing some scores "exclusively on iTunes", now others are following suit.

piano632, January 13, 2007; 2:13 AM

I HATE ITUNES, i want to buy only cds!!!!


tyuan74, January 13, 2007; 3:14 AM

If Itunes, put up Grusin;s classic score to MY BODYGAYRD, I would run around naked in the freezing cold of a Maryland Janury. PLEASE, PLEASE Itunes

joelfan71, January 13, 2007; 6:27 AM

I'm afraid the trend can't be stopped, but I hate iTunes too. You still pay money for a product
you can easily loose again with your next crash. You have to endlessly back-up your files that
take up a lot of hard-disk space even though the files are compressed (with loss of sound
quality) and that takes a lot of your time. Who wants to be bothered with this? No artwork or
liner notes too. Eventually everything will change though. The popularity of MP3 players is an
indication of where it will go. I think there will be a market for good sounding high-end audio
CD's in the immediate future, although I'm afraid this will not count for the niche market of
soundtracks. As long as we as collectors buy all the 3000 or so copies of each average
soundtrack released it will make economic sense to release them.

chris, January 13, 2007; 6:50 AM

I think the vast majority of the 'surge' in soundtracks is songtracks - the 'DJ Motherf***er feat. the Knickerboxer Warriors' compilation kind of 'soundtrack'. The tiny score album market would still not be a significant market if its size grew by 25%. 5000 sold albums is still commercially absolutely uninteresting to any major label, just like 4000.

And iTunes is not a label anyway.

handstand, January 13, 2007; 9:11 AM

Disney must really hate THE BLACK HOLE (and soundtrack collectors too) to do something like this.

Maybe someone should send all these posts to them along with those you can read in the forum at "filmscoremonthly.com". They would be surprised to see how many people are against their decision.



f.ditalia, January 13, 2007; 9:36 AM

That is sad and becoming a really bad habit .
I sincerely hope in a recent future that the song album won't be the only one to be released
while the score will only be available on iTunes ! But I am not very optimistic as the very release
of films themselves seems to go that way .
Besides for foreigners like me (France) you don't have the right to download from US iTunes !!
Wich means you can't even buy the legitimate music .

Sad times for purists

michel, January 13, 2007; 1:58 PM

Not interested in buying lossy crap... I will rather add a couple of bucks and buy a bootleg if there is no interest on Disney's side to release anything properly.
I will probably consider anything being "available" for download only as UNreleased and not interested in legal/ilegal issues, I simply want the CD and I am not interested in anything else.

petrkocanda, January 13, 2007; 3:01 PM

Screw itunes! I want something to hold in my hands and not something as unstable as digital information.
And i don't want to pay for every single track!
It's very sad the market is moving into that direction.

philkws, January 13, 2007; 4:16 PM

Yeah, Really bad news for anyone that likes to read a cover and take in a little background on a cd, as you listen to the sound that you can really only get from a cd? Record being the next best thing for me.
I really don't like the idea of more soundtrack's going on iTunes.
I did have to buy one soundtrack already and had to burn to cd right away to be sure not to lose it, my Pc is always on the blink for one reason or another?
I hate to say this, But, I'm with the guy that's going for bootlegs if this keeps going on with great scores! I'm not sure the Black Hole is one of the all time greats, but it's not bad and to go on iTunes is a real shame as i have been after it for a long time.
Sad times ahead?

montanazal, January 15, 2007; 9:02 AM

Geez, quite a force of iTunes SLAMMERS. I for one love to have the hard copy of a cd. I too enjoy looking at the artwork, but have always bought a score for the "music". Most scores that I buy, I buy after I have watched the movie. Only recently have I began to buy them without having seen the film first. I mean, I will watch a movie, and feel a strong amount of emotion from a scene when it connects just right with the music. I think all too often, people don't realize the subtle, yet powerful ways that a score can carry and even "make" a movie all that it is. So, I will go out and get the soundtrack's score, just to relive that moment I recalled in the theater, or at home when I watched the movie. My biggest aggrivation with score releases is not being complete, but never how it was released. Digital media is digital media. Whether it be on a CD, or through iTunes MP4 format. All I want is the music, and the sensation it can deliver. So, why all the beef with someone who is offering it up. iTunes is just another way to get a piece of music you're looking for. I for one am very thankful that they are around. It's convenient, and a good way to handle mass releases since this genre of music is growing more popular.

Think about it. You have a cd. Do you back it up on your computer? Hopefully you do. Especially if you like to listen to your soundtracks in your car or somewhere away from home, because they could be stolen. And if it's out of print, you risk paying a hefty price to regain it, or just due without. So if you have it on your computer, then something happens to the CD, and now it's unusable, does the enjoyment from the soundtrack itself lessen? It shouldn't. So, don't get so hung up on hard copy releases. Sure it's nice, but in the end, you save some money on iTunes, and you get the same quality. You can afford to usually buy two soundtracks from iTunes for the price of one. Like I said, I'm not knocking buying the cd release, I usually do, but if you have to settle for iTunes, big whoopie, at least what you're wanting is somehow available.

drakemarone, January 16, 2007; 4:33 PM

I hate i-tunes. I must have a cd and liner

dspin24358, January 17, 2007; 4:02 AM

I never lost a genuine pressed CD once, ever. Not in the 25 years that I collect them. Not to
theft, deterioration or whatever. On the other hand I lost countless computerfiles in the same
period and of all the CDR copies I ever made almost all develop problems within a year. Hell,
even my Sony Minidiscs occasionally give problems and can't be played properly anymore. So I
don't bother about backups of my properly manufactured CD's, they will probably last a lifetime
(as promised by Philips when they introduced them). I'm not even talking about soundquality
here. I simply don't want to be bothered with backups on external harddiscs. F*** iTunes.

chris, January 17, 2007; 7:34 AM

wheeeeew
now at last an official release and then i§$#%Tunes???
Disney!!! stupidity ahead... well made!!! great!!
well, so now who is gonna talk bad about the nice bootleg?

f*** this is no future for collectors like we are.
stupid disney junkies.

well, at least I'm happy about other Labels who still bring the real thing. I hope they won't change to the dark side. :(



1701, January 19, 2007; 5:45 PM

I live in the UK and iTunes here doesn't sell it and for obvious reasons can't download it from the US site - can someone help me with this as I'd really like this soundtrack.

Does anyone think they will give it a limited release on CD soon?

leuthedog@yahoo.ie

Many thanks!

chartfields, January 28, 2007; 3:08 PM

I've got nothing against downloadable music...but give us the option of lossless. Everything I own on cd has been saved as apple lossless in itunes on my computer...why won't they let us buy music this way? Or better yet, how about something equaling the quality of dvd-audio or sacd in a lossless downloadable file? If physical media is just not economically feasible, then so be it...but I will not buy compressed trash!

According to the first post here:

http://www.magicmusic.net/discuss/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=3110

the original analog transfer was digitized at 24/96 and then changed to 128 AAC. Why can't we buy a lossless version of the 24/96 transfer on itunes? Considering they way this was recorded it might not make a big difference, but this is a disturbing trend for music lovers. Disney is sitting on MOUNTAINS of stuff I would pay good money for, if they would just release it in a lossless format. You have itunes at 128; some things on itunes plus at 256; give us an "itunes insanity" option at 24/96 or the highest possible quality available.

Walt O

fswalt, May 10, 2008; 10:24 PM

Something caused all this. But what caused... that cause?

clockwork36, October 9, 2008; 6:07 PM

Ah, fresh mushroom soup from my own personal garden.

RLee177, April 14, 2009; 9:58 AM